UFO Review - Issue 14

Magazine Overview

Title: UFO REVIEW
Issue Date: January/February 2006 (Number 14)
Cover Headline: 25th Anniversary of Rendlesham Forest Landing. Aliens Make Sentimental Return Visit – Just For Old Time's Sake.

This issue of UFO Review, dated January/February 2006, leads with a speculative piece on the 25th anniversary of the Rendlesham Forest Landing, suggesting a return visit from aliens. The cover features a humorous cartoon of aliens and a UFO. The magazine aims to provide news and analysis within the field of Ufology.

Welcome and Editorial Ambitions

The editor opens the issue with a message of mild optimism for the progress of Ufology in the coming year, attributing this hope to the enthusiasm and intelligent ideas within the field, suggesting a move towards a more structured approach. The editor reveals a personal ambition to take UFO Review into print, lamenting the lack of a dedicated UK newsstand publication and expressing a desire to see one established. The editor acknowledges the challenges of such a venture but feels compelled to try.

A key prediction for 2006 is the resurgence of interest in the Berwyn Mountain case from January 1974. The editor notes that while the skeptical consensus attributes the event to a combination of natural phenomena, the case has a history of witnesses and has been explored by authors like Andy Roberts, though unanswered questions remain.

In This Issue - Feature Articles

The issue outlines several key articles:

• Back to Back Part One: An interview with Errol Bruce-Knapp, owner and moderator of the UFO Updates message list, offering an analysis of his life, career, and views on Ufology.
• Stan Friedman Speaks: An interview with the noted ufologist.
• Kittie Klaw: An interview described as potentially waking readers up after the holiday season, focusing on a prominent figure in the paranormal field.
• Back to Back Part Two: An interview with Joe McGonagle, owner and moderator of the ufologyinuk mailing list, discussing his background, interest in Ufology, and future ambitions for UK Ufology.
• The UFO Review Biggest Pile of Ufological Crap in 2005 Awards: A critical review of the year's Ufological claims.
• Christmastime UFO Sightings in the UK: An article by columnist Kithra.
• Fortean Times; An announcement: Details an announcement from Fortean Times.
• Number 10 and Spin: Andrew Pike discusses the tenth planet 'Xena' and the definition of a planet.
• Searching For the Truth: A tribute to Walter Haut by Dennis Balthaser.

Interview with Errol Bruce-Knapp

The magazine delves into a detailed interview with Errol Bruce-Knapp, exploring his background and his role in managing online Ufological communities. Bruce-Knapp, who is 63, was born in Egypt in October 1942 during the Second World War. His father was Canadian and served in the British army, while his mother was Greek, born in Egypt, from a family of cotton merchants. His early life involved frequent moves due to his father's military service, living in Egypt, the UK, Gibraltar, and Cyprus.

Bruce-Knapp recalls early memories of living in London during daylight bombing raids and the presence of barrage balloons. His education began in Gibraltar, where he initially struggled with English despite his mother speaking French, Greek, and Arabic, and his father speaking English and French. Curiously, he became fluent in Spanish within six months to a year of being in Gibraltar.

His family moved to the Suez Canal Zone in Egypt, living under strict security measures due to the EOKA terrorist wave. Later, they moved to Cyprus, where his father was stationed at GHQ. During their time in Cyprus, the GHQ was hit by EOKA terrorists, causing significant damage. The family then relocated to Famagusta, Cyprus, and later to Scone, Scotland, where his father was posted with the Black Watch.

Bruce-Knapp describes his childhood experiences as being a 'military brat', which he believes contributed to an open mind. He explains that due to constantly changing schools, his formal education was incomplete, and at age 15, he opted to join the Army Apprentice's School in Harrogate, Yorkshire, to learn skills like Morse code and radio operation. He served with the Royal Signals, including a posting in Germany and with the Vandoos (a French Canadian regiment).

His first job in radio was not in the UK but in Egypt, where he hosted a children's request show for the British Forces Broadcasting Radio station at age eleven. He describes this as a perfect opportunity that made him feel like 'somebody'. He later applied to work for the Canadian Army radio station, spending about a year there before becoming ill with recurring flu-like symptoms.

He was hospitalized and underwent a treatment regime, eventually being sent to a rest and recreation posting at Hounslow, London. He describes this period, working with the women's army corps, as possibly the most difficult job he ever had. The treatment for his illness, which was suspected to be Hodgkin's, eventually seemed to work.

Bruce-Knapp also discusses his voice, noting that while he has a 'classic radio voice', he considers it an acquired trait and an 'affectation' that kicks in when he is on the phone or microphone. He mentions his ability to mimic accents and speech patterns of those around him, describing himself as a 'chameleon voice wise'.

Online Ufological Communities

The magazine contrasts two prominent online Ufological communities: UFO Updates and UfologyUK. UFO Updates, based in Toronto, is described as the premier list, known for its high standard of debate and its permanent moderation by Errol Bruce-Knapp. This moderation ensures that messages are neat, tidy, and properly formatted, with the possibility of rejection if they do not meet these standards. This strictness is attributed to the need for messages to be archived effectively.

UfologyUK, on the other hand, is UK-based and focuses on the British Ufological scene. Joe McGonagle is its moderator, and its postings are typically not moderated, allowing for immediate appearance on the board. The article suggests that while both lists have international membership, UfologyUK reflects a more distinctly British character and temperament compared to the North American influence on UFO Updates.

The editor notes that while Bruce-Knapp's moderation style is more direct and controlling, McGonagle's influence is more subtle, though he is experimenting with moderation. The article poses questions about the power these moderators hold in shaping Ufological thought and opinion.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The issue demonstrates a strong focus on the UK Ufology scene, with multiple articles and interviews pertaining to British Ufologists and events. There is an emphasis on personal histories and backgrounds within the field, as seen in the extensive interviews with Bruce-Knapp and McGonagle. The magazine also engages with critical analysis, as indicated by the 'Ufological Crap' awards. The editor's stance is one of cautious optimism for the future of Ufology, advocating for a more organized and structured approach, and expressing a personal commitment to advancing the field through the potential print publication of UFO Review. The issue also touches upon historical cases like Rendlesham and Berwyn Mountain, suggesting their continued relevance.

This issue of UFO Review features an extensive interview with Errol Bruce, covering his diverse life experiences from his recovery from Hodgkin's disease to his military service and his significant involvement in the early days of pirate radio in the UK.

Early Life and Health

The interview begins with a discussion of Errol Bruce's recovery from Hodgkin's disease, a cancer of the lymph nodes. He describes it as a miraculous recovery, as he was one of the few people to have recovered without chemotherapy, though he did receive chemo and other drugs. He was twenty years old when he watched the first episodes of Coronation Street, a show he still follows.

Family and Military Service

Bruce recounts his father's ambition to become a Beefeater at the Tower of London, a role he achieved after serving twenty-two years in the British army. His father was the first Canadian to hold this position. At the age of twenty, Bruce was sent to Libya with the signal squadron. He spent his 21st birthday touring the Middle East with Ruby Murray. During his time in Libya, he started a rock 'n' roll band with fellow soldiers, using funds from a social club to buy instruments. He also mentions his time in the Army Apprentice's School, where he joined the drums and fifes corps, eventually becoming drum major. He admits to not being able to read music but having a good ear and a strong sense of rhythm.

Military Discharge and Transition

Bruce describes his commitment to the army as a contract that would have kept him serving until he was thirty. He decided to 'work his ticket' to get out, orchestrating a 'psychiatric ticket' by feigning a breakdown. This involved taking prescribed stimulants and depressants, leading to an incident on New Year's Eve 1963 where he kicked his drum kit. He was sent to a military hospital in Cyprus and then to Netley in Hampshire. He acknowledges this was a planned act to get discharged, rather than a genuine breakdown.

Entry into Pirate Radio

After leaving the army, Bruce found employment with the Automobile Association. In 1964, he heard about pirate radio station Caroline needing disc jockeys. He sent in a demo tape and was quickly hired, starting on overnight shifts. He describes the early days of pirate radio, noting that the UK radio scene was dominated by the BBC and out of touch with younger audiences. Pirate radio, broadcasting from ships outside territorial waters, offered a new and exciting alternative.

Life on Radio Caroline

Bruce's first impressions of the ship, the Mi Amigo, were of awe. He worked fourteen-hour days initially, as he was one of the few who knew how to operate the broadcast equipment. He mentions working alongside other notable DJs like Tony Blackburn, Simon Dee, and Brian Vaughn. He recalls that in the beginning, they had no set playlists and would choose records from a library based on what they liked. He claims to have been the first DJ globally to play 'House of the Rising Sun' by The Animals.

Music Scene and Later Life

Bruce discusses his connections within the music industry, mentioning meeting bands like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones in their early days at venues like The Star Club in Hamburg. He also talks about his involvement in organizing the Toronto Peace Festival and working with John Lennon and Yoko Ono on a radio network for peace. He reflects on his life as a period of 'several lifetimes' and notes that he is now involved with UFOs.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The interview highlights themes of resilience, reinvention, and the cultural shifts of the 1960s, particularly the rise of pirate radio and its impact on music and youth culture. The interviewer, SM, guides the conversation, eliciting detailed anecdotes from Bruce. The magazine's focus on UFOs is mentioned at the end, suggesting a broader interest in unexplained phenomena and extraordinary life stories.

This document is page 21 of a magazine titled "UFO DATA MAGAZINE", volume 2, issue 21, dated 1994. It features an interview with Errol Bruce, conducted by SM (presumably the interviewer).

Interview with Errol Bruce

The interview begins with Errol Bruce (EBK) discussing his past, stating that secrets will die with him and that his ego was gratified at the time, but he doesn't need more of it. He recounts his time with Caroline, which lasted for two years, followed by a bit of a year with Radio England. He then did some work with Caroline North before leaving the country in July 1968.

When asked if he was still married then, EBK replied no. He and Ricky Farr had opened a club in Portsmouth called Brave New World, formerly the Bird Cage. They renovated it into a magnificent club for 'Modies'. After about six months, EBK wanted to return to radio but did not want to work for 'the Beeb' (BBC) due to its bureaucratic nature. He decided to move to Canada.

EBK explained his choice of Canada by stating he was a Canadian citizen by birth, as his father was Canadian. He saw it as a land of opportunity. Upon arrival, he found commercial radio there to be backward. He arrived with albums by Arthur Brown, Brian Auger, Julie Driscoll, and the Small Faces, artists unheard of in Canada at the time. He tried to get a job at CHUM FM in Toronto, which was a progressive radio station at the time, known for playing music the DJs wanted, with few commercials and FM stereo. This was in 1968.

He mentioned that CHUM FM was unique. He also noted that Allan Waters, who had founded 1050 Chum (a Top 40 rocker station), had recently died. CKLW in Windsor was also a major rocker station. Allan Waters was a visionary who built an empire from one AM radio station to many radio and TV stations. Waters decided to create a progressive rock station in Toronto, which had been operating for about three or four months when EBK arrived. EBK desperately wanted to work there, but they rejected him due to his perceived 'strange accent', which they thought wouldn't be acceptable.

When asked about his accent, EBK described it as mid-Atlantic, which SM noted was a positive attribute on British radio.

EBK then discussed his experiences in Canada. He mentioned that he bugged a salesman at AM station CKFH, where Foster Hewitt, the first Canadian hockey commentator, had set the rules for the genre. The salesman had bought the all-night slot and hired someone to play rhythm and blues. EBK, who knew R&B well, applied for the slot. Keith Hampshire, a DJ from Caroline, was working at CKFH doing the afternoon drive. EBK connected with Hampshire and eventually got the all-night slot after several weeks of persistent effort, as the owner thought his accent was funny.

EBK recounted his experiences south of the border, playing rhythm and blues on CKFH and receiving calls from listeners asking how he knew so much about their music, as he was playing music from the UK. He mentioned playing Motown, Stax, and Volt on Caroline and spending time with Stax/Volt artists on the road in the UK. He also mentioned artists like Otis Redding, Rufus Thomas, Carla Thomas, Wilson Pickett, and Sam and Dave.

He then spoke about meeting and falling in love with a fashion model in Toronto. This relationship lasted a while but ended when she left for a photoshoot in Acapulco and became involved with the photographer, disappearing from his life. This devastated him, especially when he saw her image on billboards and in magazines.

To cope, he decided to leave town. He found a progressive rock show called 'The Open Lid' on CKFH. He auditioned for a Mexican AM station in Tucson, Arizona, which was looking to establish an FM progressive rock sister station. He and his then-girlfriend, along with their cats, packed their belongings into a U-Haul trailer and drove to Tucson. He recalled hearing The Beatles' "Get Back" for the first time while driving into Tucson at dawn.

He described his time in Tucson, talking with a broad accent to locals who had only seen "them" on TV. He recounted an incident in Texas where they desperately needed a beer and found a remote saloon. The saloon was filled with rednecks, and upon entering, the place went silent. EBK, using a cockney accent, asked how to get a drink, which amused the patrons and saved them.

SM then asked about his interest in ufology. EBK recalled an incident in Libya in 1963 while on patrol in the desert. He woke up in his tent to a bright orange light. He saw silhouettes on the wall, described as 'classic little grey silhouettes'. He tried to turn over and eventually managed to do so, finding it was daylight. He initially thought it was his colleagues playing a prank. He crawled out of his tent and saw an amber/orange light at about his height. As he walked towards it, the light moved away, up and down a dune. He followed it, and as he reached the bottom of the dune, he stepped onto the sand and found himself back on top of his sleeping bag, covered in sand, with it being morning. This event 'freaked him out' for about a week, after which he forgot about it as he couldn't rationalize it or talk to anyone about it.

He confirmed this incident was in Libya and dated it to around 1963.

SM asked about Betty and Barney, and EBK recalled it was around '62. He stated that this memory didn't fully come back to him until '92/'93 when he got into UFOs seriously. He admitted to suppressing or forgetting about it for nearly 30 years.

EBK mentioned that as a child, particularly when in Gibraltar, he heard the 1947 broadcast about the US Army Air Force discovering a flying disc. By age five, he was reading books on flying discs, ghosts, goblins, and fairies.

He confirmed he had never been written up as a UFO case, though he had told MUFON investigators about his incident, describing himself as 'a head case but not a case'. He considered the Libyan incident a significant event and felt that his current work might be his assignment.

He recounted another incident where he was driving his cousin to the airport near Toronto. In his convertible Volkswagen Rabbit, he noticed his cousin looking intently at something under the windshield. EBK looked too and saw a grey disc moving at the same speed as their car, below the clouds. They watched it for a while, and when asked by his cousin what it was, EBK, a physicist, deferred to him. The disc paced them for about 25 minutes on the highway towards Toronto.

As they approached Toronto, the object, near hydro electrical towers and a transmission station, suddenly sped up to an incredible speed, moving vertically upwards through the clouds and disappearing. EBK believed other people must have seen it but he never heard anything about it. He acknowledged that others might have been behind them on the road but questioned how many people look up at the sky while driving, especially on a grey day.

EBK then mentioned another incident where he woke up in a ground-level apartment to an orange light filling the room. He saw three 'classic little grey silhouettes' on the wall. He struggled to turn over and eventually managed to do so, finding it was daylight. SM suggested this was sleep paralysis, which EBK agreed with, comparing it to the 'Venus' sighting while driving to Pearson International airport.

SM asked if the 'Venus' sighting was also sleep paralysis, but EBK stated it was not. He explained that at the time, he was involved with meditation classes for the Toronto Peace Festival and Karma Productions, coordinating the Peace Station Network. While meditating with his eyes closed, he became aware of 'the Watchers' with similar shaped heads looking at him, as if peering over a wall of cloud. He described it as conscious experience.

EBK admitted he freaked out and didn't delve deeper into it at the time. These incidents only came into place for him later when he got involved with MUFON Ontario. He reflected that these were strange incidents and it was unusual not to have freaked out more, but he accepted them and moved on.

When asked how long he was in Tucson, EBK replied he was there from October to mid-January, running the Peace Network for John and Yoko. He described dropping acid and climbing into an imitation pine tree, feeling at home.

He then spoke about Vessie, the model he had fallen in love with, describing her as gorgeous, six feet tall, with high cheekbones, leggy, and the daughter of a Hungarian baroness.

Regarding his relationships, EBK stated he had a number of them. He has not met his first wife again, who lives somewhere outside Birmingham. They have exchanged letters. He has a son with her. He also has two daughters; one works for BBC Radio Essex, and the other is a computer wiz living in the southwest of England. He clarified that his children were not with his first wife. He mentioned he has one son who is alive and one who died. His son Rick, who died at 22, had committed suicide in a police cell by hanging himself with his socks. EBK described him as a troubled and unhappy young man.

EBK acknowledged that the loss of his son still affects him, stating that such things do not go away. He agreed that suicide is a devastating life event for relatives.

SM commented that EBK seemed guarded about his children and suggested he had 'put it about a bit'.

EBK confirmed he had sown his wild oats, especially during the free love era before the pill became popular, leading to 'accidents'. He expressed happiness that his children are around and would prefer them to be so, rather than not. He enjoyed embracing the 60s and found life difficult being 'gonad driven'. He was glad Great Britain helped and was happy to contribute to taxpayers.

Returning to Canada, EBK mentioned that the Toronto Peace Festival fell apart due to individuals mismanaging John and Yoko's money. The staging company was Karma Productions, and John and Yoko pulled out, with John writing the song 'Instant Karma'. EBK recalled the song's theme about Martians coming in great golden spaceships.

SM asked about John Lennon, as EBK featured one of his songs as an introduction to SDI and knew him. EBK mentioned spending time playing John Lennon songs and having a massive music collection, including thousands of LPs, CDs, and now MP3 files.

EBK agreed with the suggestion that Mark David Chapman might have been part of a setup, stating that Lennon was undesirable to America and that the CIA was arrogant and uncontrollable at the time.

EBK drew parallels to the Kennedy assassinations and Luther King's death, suggesting CIA involvement. He noted that Nixon disliked Lennon, who had featured Nixon in a song, creating animosity.

EBK stated that he and SM would probably never know the truth about these events, and it's unlikely to surface in their lifetimes. He also felt that UFO business truths wouldn't surface in their lifetimes either. He resigned himself to this, humorously stating he might come back as a 'pissed ghost' to find out.

EBK confirmed that his active interest in UFOs began around the late 80s when Alan Hynek visited Toronto and he attended a lecture. He started reading UFO-related books. He then saw a promo for an 'Unsolved Mysteries' show about a UFO landing in Carp, Ontario, and decided to tape it.

He described how he got into computing with an Atari and ran an astrology program written by a friend of his brother. He spent three months keying in astrological books into the program. After completing this, he realized there was life beyond his computer and bought a modem to get online.

EBK clarified that buying a modem was to get him onto telephone lines. While in a computer store buying a modem, he saw a computer newspaper mentioning BBSs and found the UFO Intelligence Network. He paid $40 a year for access and read Fido Echoes, Fido UFO, and Bama, including a MUFON channel.

His involvement with MUFON came after recording the TV show and getting his Atari. He received a call from a friend who mentioned someone in Ottawa wanted to know about the Carp case. EBK spoke with this person, and later, a man named Tom Theofanous from MUFON Ontario contacted him. This happened four days after EBK had decided he needed to get in touch with MUFON.

The first case he investigated with Tom, Lise, Wayne St. John, and Victor Lorenzo was the Carp case, a supposed landed UFO. It was during this investigation that he first learned to mistrust Bruce Maccabee.

EBK mentioned Armen Victorian, who accused someone of being a double, possibly an ONI officer in naval intelligence. He expressed mistrust towards this person, noting their refusal to discuss the Carp case or Bob Oechsler, the investigator. EBK recalled Bruce Maccabee stating on 'Unsolved Mysteries' that an image was the 'most genuine image of a landed UFO that I've ever seen', which EBK disagreed with, stating he had done the leg-work and found the MUFON Ontario investigation into the case to be conducted by 'shysters', including Bob Oechsler.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The magazine issue focuses on personal narratives and investigations within the UFO and paranormal community. The interview with Errol Bruce highlights a blend of personal history, including his early career in radio and music, with his experiences and investigations into UFO phenomena. There's a recurring theme of skepticism towards official explanations and a critical view of certain investigators within the UFO field, as seen in EBK's comments about Bruce Maccabee and the Carp case. The issue also touches upon broader conspiracy theories, referencing potential government involvement in high-profile deaths. The editorial stance appears to be one that encourages open discussion and investigation of unexplained phenomena, while also maintaining a critical perspective on the information presented.

This document is an interview with Errol Bruce Knapp, the editor and moderator of UFO UpDates, a long-running online forum and email service dedicated to the study of UFOs. The interview, conducted by an unnamed interviewer (SM), spans multiple pages and covers the history and evolution of UFO UpDates, Knapp's personal experiences in the field, and his involvement with various radio programs and personalities within the ufology and exopolitics communities.

UFO UpDates: Origins and Management

Knapp recounts how he set up a small BBS and, after upgrading to a PC and getting an internet connection, found the existing UFO newsgroups to be chaotic and filled with 'total fuck-wits'. Recognizing a gap, he decided to create UFO UpDates, which began in January 1996. The archive was established in December of the same year. Initially, the list had only 15-20 people, many of whom Knapp knew from prior connections. He emphasizes that UFO UpDates was a closed list from the beginning, with him manually managing submissions and acting as a filter between senders and receivers. He explicitly states there was never any automation and that he was always the one doing the work.

Knapp explains his approach to moderation, stating he is an 'editor' who wanted to maintain a 'reasonable level of stability' and prevent the list from deteriorating into 'stupidity,' as he observed in other online forums. He mentions having had to remove 'belligerent people' and expresses a desire to maintain integrity. He acknowledges that he may have 'pissed-off a lot of people' over the years but suggests this is a mutual process.

He addresses the issue of membership and public access, clarifying that there was no conscious decision to open the list to the public. Instead, as more people became aware of it, it naturally evolved from a seemingly closed list to one with broader access, though he notes the proportion of UFO-related people remains much higher than civilians.

Personal Encounters and Difficulties

Knapp shares some of his more challenging experiences with individuals in the field. He recounts an incident with Jim Mortellaro, who claimed to be an abductee. Knapp endured Mortellaro's claims for a long time, only for it to be revealed that Mortellaro was a 'lying bastard'. This led to Budd Hopkins investigating Mortellaro's case, and Hopkins initially asked Knapp to issue a statement separating his personal feelings from the case's outcome. Later, Hopkins discovered Mortellaro's deceit.

Knapp also mentions having had problems with 'Andy Roberts,' a countryman of the interviewer, describing Roberts's behavior as belligerent and attributing it to a 'north of England attitude.' Roberts has since returned to the list.

Radio Career and Financial Sacrifices

The interview delves into Knapp's radio career, which he pursued alongside his work with UFO UpDates. He explains that his dedication to these projects has impacted his financial life. Previously, he had a successful career in corporate show business, traveling extensively and earning good money. However, his involvement in radio, particularly with 'Strange Days... Indeed' and later 'Mind/Shift,' made it difficult to continue his corporate work, as many meetings were held off-shore or over weekends. Production companies eventually stopped booking him because of his radio commitments.

Knapp details how he got the gig for 'Strange Days...' with his radio buddy Scott Robins. They decided to create a radio documentary about the 50th anniversary of the Roswell incident. This led to producing a one-hour pre-recorded program for FM stereo, described as an 'audio mosaic.' They then approached radio stations, and Bob Mackowicz, the station manager at CFRB, liked the concept and suggested a call-in segment. Knapp, initially hesitant about talk radio, agreed to try it, which eventually led to him working for the station for a year or two without pay.

He discusses the show 'Mind/Shift,' which ran for about a year and a half, producing 102 or 104 programs. He notes that this period allowed him to upgrade his equipment and improve his financial situation, albeit modestly.

Knapp explains the circumstances surrounding the dropping of 'Mind/Shift.' He states that the show was moved from a Sunday night slot to Saturday night, where it achieved huge ratings. However, the show was later moved back to Sunday night, and then dropped. He was told the reason was disappointing numbers, but he suspects it was due to the topics covered, such as living on the St. Lawrence fault-line and the Pickering Nuclear power station, which he believes made some people uncomfortable.

Exopolitics and Criticisms

A significant portion of the interview is dedicated to Knapp's views on exopolitics and certain figures within that field, particularly Alfred Webre and Steven Greer. Knapp expresses strong skepticism about the exopolitics movement, calling it 'stupidity' and a 'combination that ain't gonna work.' He criticizes Webre as a 'loose-cannon' who is erratic and unfocused, and believes that Webre's involvement, along with others like Steven Greer and Michael Salla, will ultimately hinder the movement's progress. He uses the analogy of 'one or two bad apples in the barrel screws the whole barrel,' suggesting that investigating any one individual with questionable claims, like Clifford Stone, could discredit the entire exopolitics effort.

Knapp is particularly critical of Steven Greer, accusing him of plagiarizing FUFOR material and claiming it as his own, and of introducing 'free energy' at the Disclosure conference. He finds Webre's statements to be 'densely packed, densely worded, impossible to read.'

He expresses concern that people involved in exopolitics are not discerning enough, accepting claims without proper vetting, and that this approach, while yielding answers, might be based on 'bollocks.' He specifically mentions Paul Hellyer relying on Alfred Webre and Philip Corso for his information.

Future of Ufology and UFO UpDates

Knapp reflects on the state of ufology, noting a sense of apathy and a lack of progress. He expresses a desire for a resolution to the UFO question, stating, 'Let's resolve this one way or the other.' He believes that if the truth about UFOs were revealed, many people in the field would be out of work, and public interest would eventually wane.

He addresses the disparity between the volume of membership on UFO UpDates and the number of people who contribute posts. While some suggest people are afraid to post, Knapp dismisses this as second or third-hand information. He acknowledges that the list can be intimidating due to the knowledgeable members and the nature of the discussions. He advises new members to use the archive and search engine before posting, as many questions have already been covered.

Knapp reveals that UFO UpDates has seen significant traffic, with nearly 6 million messages in the archive by the end of the month. He notes a 'churn' in subscribers, with interest peaking and then fading. He mentions Dennis Stacy as a prominent subscriber who left because he 'just got tired of all the newbies and all the bullshit.'

Knapp expresses a commitment to continuing his work with UFO UpDates as long as he is able, stating, 'If I didn't do it, who would?' He views the potential discontinuation of UFO UpDates as a 'travesty' and hopes it will be maintained.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The interview highlights Errol Bruce Knapp's role as a gatekeeper and curator of information within the UFO community. His editorial stance is one of maintaining a high standard of discourse, filtering out what he perceives as noise and unsubstantiated claims. He is critical of sensationalism and what he views as the 'nonsense' and 'non-facts' that cloud the UFO issue. Knapp's personal sacrifices, both financial and in terms of time, underscore his dedication to providing a platform for serious UFO research. His skepticism towards exopolitics and certain prominent figures suggests a preference for grounded, evidence-based investigation over speculative theories. The interview also touches on the challenges of managing online communities and the personal toll it can take.

This document presents a detailed statistical report of the "UFO UpDates E-Mail List Archive" for the year 2005. It meticulously records the "Total Message Hits" on a daily basis for each month, from January through December. For each month, a "Daily Average" and a "Running Total" are provided, offering insights into the volume of activity on the email list.

January 2005 Statistics

The January 2005 data shows daily message hits ranging from 7,975 (on January 22nd) to 32,546 (on January 17th). The daily average for January was 15,864, with a running total of 491,813.

February 2005 Statistics

February 2005 saw daily message hits fluctuating between 7,499 (on February 13th) and 24,377 (on February 18th). The daily average for February was 12,933, and the running total reached 853,941.

March 2005 Statistics

In March 2005, daily message hits varied from 6,004 (on March 5th) to 26,621 (on March 23rd). The daily average for March was 12,063, with a running total of 1,227,907.

April 2005 Statistics

April 2005 recorded daily message hits between 6,660 (on April 9th) and 19,005 (on April 19th). The daily average for April was 10,422, and the running total accumulated to 1,540,565.

May 2005 Statistics

May 2005 exhibited a wide range of daily message hits, from 5,184 (on May 1st) to 41,170 (on May 11th). The daily average for May was 16,444, with a running total of 2,050,337.

June 2005 Statistics

June 2005 showed daily message hits ranging from 8,181 (on June 5th) to 52,630 (on June 14th). The daily average for June was 14,246, and the running total reached 2,477,706.

July 2005 Statistics

July 2005 recorded daily message hits between 9,028 (on July 31st) and 36,777 (on July 19th). The daily average for July was 15,159, with a running total of 2,947,635.

August 2005 Statistics

August 2005 had daily message hits varying from 10,256 (on August 13th) to 26,594 (on August 4th). The daily average for August was 14,585, and the running total reached 3,399,756.

September 2005 Statistics

September 2005 showed daily message hits ranging from 11,730 (on September 18th) to 58,337 (on September 10th). The daily average for September was 21,730, with a running total of 4,051,655.

October 2005 Statistics

October 2005 recorded daily message hits between 11,912 (on October 23rd) and 46,334 (on October 25th). The daily average for October was 19,902, and the running total accumulated to 4,668,611.

November 2005 Statistics

November 2005 had daily message hits ranging from 12,652 (on November 23rd) to 51,435 (on November 28th). The daily average for November was 18,820, with a running total of 5,233,212.

December 2005 Statistics

December 2005 showed daily message hits between 10,898 (on December 29th) and 67,870 (on December 27th). The daily average for December was 23,527, and the year's total reached 5,962,576.

Other Content

Following the statistical data, the document mentions that the second half of "Back to back," an interview with Joe McGonagle, follows on page 68. Additionally, there is a cartoon titled "ALIEN NEWSCAST" with a satirical message about space explorers discovering a new planet devoid of intelligent life.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The primary focus of this document is the quantitative analysis of engagement with the "UFO UpDates E-Mail List Archive." The recurring theme is the tracking and reporting of message hit statistics over time. The editorial stance, as suggested by the inclusion of the "ALIEN NEWSCAST" cartoon, appears to be one that combines serious data presentation with a touch of humor and commentary on UFO/alien-related topics.

This issue of UFO ROUNDUP, dated January 2015, features a prominent interview with UFO researcher Stan Friedman on the cover, accompanied by a profile of Kittie Klaw. The magazine, published by Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), is priced at $4.95 and has an ISSN of 1074-6973.

Stan Friedman Speaks

The issue opens with a visual representation of Stan Friedman reflecting on his career. Speech bubbles indicate his past as a young and carefree individual, contrasted with the toll the UFO business has taken. He also mentions dealing with people who haven't always told the truth, which has made him angry, but asserts he has always maintained his dignity and integrity, never telling a lie. The visual narrative suggests a seasoned researcher who has faced challenges and maintained his principles.

Kittie Klaw Profile and Interview

The main body of the magazine features an extensive interview with Kittie Klaw, presented as a profile. The article begins by describing Klaw as a bright, highly intelligent female who fits an ideal image and is prepared to be open. The introduction suggests that misjudging her could lead to a surprise, and approaching the interview with an open mind will be rewarding.

Early Interests and Psychology

The interview, conducted by SM, starts by asking Klaw if she considers herself a 'weird' person. She acknowledges being unusual for a 23-year-old, with interests like herpetology (the study of snakes and reptiles), which she pursued as a child. She also mentions an interest in the Harry Potter series. Klaw reveals that in 2003, she obtained a degree in psychology from Glasgow. Her interest in psychology stems from a fascination with human behavior, what drives people, how they are influenced by stimuli, and the subconscious and occult aspects of the mind.

Motivations and Outlook

Klaw states that mystery drives her, and she considers herself Gnostic, seeking truth and understanding by examining things that don't directly relate to her. She denies being lonely as a child, having had friends, though she felt jaded by her peers by age 14. She found pop music vacuous and meaningless, which depressed her, leading her to question its importance to so many people and suspecting it had an agenda.

Personal Quirks and Influences

Klaw's friends found her outlook quirky. She contrasts her own interests with those of her best friend, Katie, who was obsessed with Robbie Williams. Klaw's room featured posters of Paul McKenna, The Scream, and The Mona Lisa. She admits to having a crush on Paul McKenna for about a year.

Views on Derren Brown and the Paranormal

Klaw expresses admiration for Derren Brown, calling herself a fan and noting that a friend is a 'complete Derren nut'. She discusses how individuals like Brown might isolate themselves due to their work, suggesting they develop a capacity for disassociation to observe and influence people. She agrees that this can make personal relationships difficult. Klaw then shifts to her interest in the paranormal, specifically mentioning an essay she wrote on abductions, which she describes as an excellent overview based on thorough research.

Alien Abductions and Psychological Explanations

Klaw discusses her essay on alien abductions, which she wrote over a couple of weeks. She recounts an experience with an acerbic tutor who dismissed her interest in the paranormal. When asked to write a critical review of psychological literature, she chose to focus on the paranormal, specifically the dying experience. Her tutor's dismissal led her to choose aliens as her topic, aiming to make him uncomfortable. She became fascinated by the work of Professor John Mack from Harvard, finding it compelling despite potential academic jealousy.

Klaw believes that much of the material on alien abduction experiences is culturally based and influenced by media like 'The X Files'. While acknowledging psychological components and the potential for fantasy or delusion in some cases, she argues that there are too many consistencies to dismiss the phenomenon entirely. She critiques the reliance on sleep paralysis as a sole explanation, noting that it doesn't account for all cases, especially those occurring when individuals are awake, such as while driving.

She expresses frustration with the scientific community's reluctance to investigate the paranormal, suggesting that some worry about their personal reputation. Klaw believes a genuine phenomenon is occurring, and its denial by psychologists and psychiatrists is unjustified, possibly indicating a personal agenda or hidden knowledge.

Cultural Significance and ETH

Regarding the prevalence of abduction experiences in the United States, Klaw suggests it might be due to cultural comfort in reporting such events, or perhaps other cultures do not report them as readily. She notes that in some cultures, visitations from other worlds are considered divine experiences. She believes that the way phenomena are reported or explained can influence whether they enter the record books.

Klaw refrains from drawing definitive conclusions about alien abductions, stating she is not qualified to say definitively what the answer is. However, she offers her opinion that the alien hypothesis is as plausible as any other and questions why people are quick to dismiss it due to its unusual nature. She points to other anomalous experiences like crop circles and cattle mutilations as evidence of something larger occurring globally.

She argues against dismissing the idea of aliens simply because people dislike it, calling it unscientific. She suggests that entities like fairies or other unknown beings could also be responsible. Klaw believes there is a genuine phenomenon that cannot be explained by psychiatry or social conditioning alone, suggesting something more specific is at play. She finds vague explanations like the 'collective unconscious' insufficient.

Skepticism and the Nature of Reality

Klaw criticizes the media's misunderstanding of 'skepticism', defining a true skeptic as someone who examines evidence with an open mind. She believes that deciding something doesn't exist involves the same faith as deciding it does. She acknowledges that humans have a problem with irrationality, which can drive social evolution and questioning. She believes that emotions play a significant role and are not always related to logic.

When asked about aliens and the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH), Klaw states she is a skeptic in a positive sense, finding it highly plausible that aliens exist. She believes it is more likely that aliens exist than that humanity is alone. She has not seen an alien herself and does not claim first-hand knowledge.

Consciousness and Communication

Klaw suggests that knowledge of aliens might be gained a priori or through direct experience like abduction. She notes that people tend to accept explanations that cause the least psychological discomfort. She agrees that intelligent extraterrestrial life likely exists elsewhere and may have interacted with humanity, but not necessarily in physical ways or through conventional means like spaceships building pyramids. She posits that intelligent life might be more subtle, intrinsic to consciousness, or communicated through dreams or meaningful coincidence (synchronicity).

She views the internet as a physical thing but also as light, suggesting it might possess its own form of consciousness. She believes that if aliens were to communicate, this might be a possible method.

Religion and the Paranormal

Klaw is not religious in an organized sense but is pro 'disorganized religion' and follows Gnostic tradition and the occult. She appreciates the Gnostic content in Christianity and Judaism. She believes people want tangible explanations for phenomena like aliens, wanting them to look a certain way and have defined functions. The alien abduction experience, however, often lacks a tangible explanation, creating contradiction and mental strain.

She relates the idea of alien abductions to historical accounts of people being taken by fairies, suggesting it's a cultural way of perceiving phenomena. Klaw still identifies as a paranormal investigator, though less active recently. She views ghost hunting and spectral entities within the same broad spectrum as alien abduction hypotheses, questioning the naming of phenomena and whether it defines them.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The magazine appears to focus on UFOs, alien encounters, and related phenomena, with a strong emphasis on psychological and philosophical interpretations. The editorial stance seems to encourage open-minded investigation and critical thinking, challenging conventional scientific skepticism and exploring alternative explanations for anomalous experiences. The interview with Kittie Klaw highlights a nuanced approach, blending academic rigor with a willingness to consider unconventional hypotheses. The inclusion of Stan Friedman on the cover suggests a continued commitment to established UFO research figures.

This issue of FATE magazine, identified by its page number 61, delves into a variety of intriguing topics ranging from paranormal experiences and the art of burlesque to military service and intelligence work. The issue features interviews and personal accounts, offering a diverse exploration of the unexplained and the human experience.

Anomalous Experiences and Belief Systems

The issue opens with a discussion on why people are fascinated by anomalous experiences, suggesting that the search for fairies, aliens, or cryptozoology stems from a fundamental human need to understand the world and to feel less alone. The speaker, identified as Kittie, posits that these interests are as valid as specific religious beliefs, serving as a positive catalyst for self-reflection. She notes that the public often dismisses fairies as a Victorian-era myth, but argues that the underlying themes have simply evolved, with 'aliens' replacing 'fairies' in modern discourse. The core human need, she suggests, is to find meaning and connection, whether through religion, the paranormal, or other avenues.

Kittie shares a personal experience of witnessing an anomalous light. While 13 years old and living in Scotland, she observed a powerful, silent search beam scanning the forest and moors near her home. Despite initial assumptions of it being a helicopter, the complete lack of sound and absence of any visible aircraft led her to question the event. This experience was later discussed with Ufologist Alan Park, who identified such sightings as 'anomalous lights,' sparking Kittie's interest in Ufology.

The Art of Burlesque

The conversation shifts to Kittie's involvement in burlesque. Her interest was initially piqued by Betty Page and the 1950s film 'Teaserama.' She describes the show as a humorous, yet sexy, performance with an innocence that she found brilliant and appealing. Kittie believes this style of entertainment, which doesn't take itself too seriously, is what the public needs. She co-founded the 'Ministry of Burlesque,' which has become her full-time occupation. Kittie emphasizes that burlesque is performance art and theatre, requiring props, costumes, and technical support, distinguishing it from simpler forms of entertainment like a DJ. She acknowledges that some gigs may not work due to audience expectations, especially in the early days of establishing burlesque in Scotland.

Kittie also touches upon the fetish side of burlesque, appreciating its avant-garde aesthetic and its ability to make people think. She identifies herself as a performance artist and comedienne, believing that comedy is essential to prevent burlesque from becoming pretentious. She stresses the importance of entertainment value, brevity, and impact, aiming to leave audiences either laughing or talking.

The Paranormal and Collective Consciousness

Returning to the paranormal, Kittie expresses a laid-back approach to finding answers, suggesting that the universe may hold explanations that are not yet accessible. She believes it's not our place to assume we know everything or to dismiss phenomena that don't fit our current understanding. She contrasts this with people who prefer neatly tied-up explanations, suggesting they might be better suited to church. Kittie also discusses Jung's idea of a collective unconscious, and its potential reflection on the internet. She entertains the theory that crop circles might be a result of collective consciousness, acknowledging that while difficult to test, it's a plausible explanation.

Kittie differentiates between the cultural minutiae of paranormal experiences (e.g., fairies vs. aliens) and the fundamental experience itself, arguing that the latter is more important. She also touches upon Near-Death Experiences (NDEs), suggesting that while chemical reactions might explain some aspects, they don't account for all experiences, pointing towards a psychological component.

Wanted: Rich Reynolds

A humorous 'Wanted' poster appears, seeking Mr. Rich Reynolds for the 'heinous and dastardly crime of disappearing without saying goodbye.' A reward is offered by 'The Dinosaur Club,' with peculiar conditions involving Persil packet tokens and a deposit. A warning is issued that the man is considered dangerous and may make allegations.

Cartoons

Two cartoons are included: one depicting aliens with a humorous caption about looks, and another showing a UFO encounter with a scientist exclaiming about mathematical proofs that it cannot exist.

The Joe McGonagle Interview

The issue features a substantial interview with Joe McGonagle, detailing his life and extensive military career. McGonagle, born in York, describes his upbringing as a 'Heinz 57' due to his father's army postings, leading to frequent moves and attendance at multiple schools. He joined the army at 16 and served for ten years.

His military service was primarily in the Royal Corps of Signals, where he specialized in electronics and communications. He worked on closed-circuit television systems for NBC-proofed vehicles, a role that required him to be highly competent. McGonagle expresses skepticism about the term 'expert,' but acknowledges his qualifications.

McGonagle's father, though not in intelligence himself, was attached to an intelligence-gathering unit in Londonderry during his service in Northern Ireland. This involved covert operations, such as attending Sinn Fein rallies to record events, a dangerous undertaking. McGonagle recalls the brutal incident of two Royal Signals soldiers who wandered into an IRA funeral, one of whom was Derek Wood.

McGonagle's army career was impacted by personal issues, including heavy drinking, which led to a demotion from sergeant to signalman. He also humorously recounts an incident involving a woman named Chris who would get him intoxicated and take him home, causing him to frequently be late for duty and resulting in a poor discipline record.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

This issue of FATE magazine consistently explores the intersection of personal experience, belief systems, and the unexplained. The editorial stance appears to be open-minded and inquisitive, encouraging readers to consider phenomena without immediate dismissal and to appreciate the subjective nature of experience. The inclusion of both serious discussions on Ufology and paranormal experiences, alongside humorous cartoons and a fictional 'wanted' poster, suggests a broad approach to exploring the 'fate' of human understanding and belief. The interviews with Kittie and Joe McGonagle highlight diverse life paths and experiences, connecting the paranormal and the mundane through personal narratives.

This document comprises pages 71 through 80 of a publication, likely a magazine or newsletter focused on ufology, titled "UfologyUK". The content consists primarily of an interview between "SM" (the interviewer) and "JM" (the interviewee), interspersed with a photograph and captions. The interview covers a wide range of topics related to ufology, personal experiences, and the dynamics of online ufology communities.

Interview with JM

The interview begins with JM discussing his past experiences in the army, including disciplinary actions and how it impacted him. He then transitions to his interest in ufology, which started before he joined the army, specifically mentioning reading Erich von Däniken in 1974. However, JM now dismisses Von Däniken's theories, including the ancient astronaut theory and the explanations for the Nazca lines, stating he realized Von Däniken was a "flake" after researching the topic further, particularly after getting online in 1999.

JM recounts his post-army career, which involved a conversion course in computers and a job in the telecoms department of a bank's automated clearing service. He also discusses his move to Stoke and his current living situation there. The conversation then returns to ufology, with JM stating he became actively involved in 1999 after getting on the internet. His initial online activity involved researching Von Däniken's work, but he found that most UFO information was US-centric.

UfologyUK and Online Communities

JM explains the origin of UfologyUK, which started with a suggestion to create a mail list and a website. He distinguishes between the mail list and the website (Ufology.org.uk), noting the website is no longer active. JM believes UfologyUK has become a prominent UK message board because it has clear guidelines for posting and behavior, which are encouraged and sometimes enforced. This policy, he argues, helps people stay on the list and prevents it from being dominated by irrelevant content or "spamming."

He elaborates on the benefits of these established rules, stating that members know the rules and either adhere to them or leave. This focus on UK ufology prevents members from being bombarded with US-centric sightings. JM also touches on the idea that people might be intimidated from contributing if they cannot support their opinions, though he believes this is a natural consequence of wanting to maintain a focused discussion.

Hypnosis and Memory in Ufology

The interview delves into the topic of hypnosis and its role in ufology, particularly in relation to cases like Betty and Barney Hill. JM acknowledges that while he hasn't been hypnotized himself, he understands that the brain tries to fill in gaps when presented with incomplete information. He expresses a need for proper training before advocating for or using hypnosis in research, citing authors like Alan Baker who explored how hypnosis can interfere with memory. JM likens the process to "garbage in, garbage out," where the mind might reconstruct details inaccurately.

SM shares a personal experience of seeing lights in the sky and assuming they were American military craft, highlighting the difference between stating an assumption and a fact. JM agrees that this is rationalizing and coming to a probable conclusion. He notes that in many cases with explanations, there's an element of doubt because answers are based on probability rather than certainty.

American vs. UK Ufology and Skepticism

JM suggests that American ufology tends to have more extremes (both very good and very bad) compared to UK ufology, which he attributes partly to national characteristics. He expresses a generally skeptical but open-minded view, emphasizing the need for rationalization and thorough thought in arguments. He disputes the idea that a lack of intelligence is the reason for some people's conclusions, suggesting instead a psychological makeup influenced by a "transient society" that seeks quick fixes.

Online Debates and List Policy

The conversation shifts to specific incidents and debates within the UfologyUK community. JM mentions the Caldebeck incident and his efforts to understand its origin, noting conflicting statements. He also discusses issues with individuals attempting to disrupt the list, such as Tim Matthews, who was removed. The challenges of members re-registering under false names are also mentioned.

A significant portion of the latter part of the interview focuses on a debate and vote regarding list policy, initiated by Andy Roberts, who advocated for naming individuals when making accusations. JM explains the process of policy changes and the challenges of ensuring broad participation in votes, noting that only a small percentage of the membership typically votes. He describes a "virulent campaign" by Andy Roberts and the difficulty of waiving policy thresholds for votes, which he did to allow the policy change to pass.

JM also discusses the nature of contributions to online lists, noting that a small percentage of members actively post, while the majority remain silent. He suggests that people might be intimidated from contributing if they cannot support their opinions, though he also notes that this doesn't fully explain why some lists are less active than others. He reiterates that many proponents of the ETH (Extraterrestrial Hypothesis) in the UK haven't fully rationalized their arguments.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The recurring themes in this issue of UfologyUK revolve around the personal journey into ufology, the critical evaluation of popular ufological theories and authors, the psychological aspects of belief and memory, and the practicalities and challenges of managing online ufology communities. The editorial stance, as conveyed through JM's perspective, appears to be one of critical inquiry, emphasizing rationalization, evidence-based reasoning, and a healthy dose of skepticism, particularly towards sensationalist claims and unsubstantiated theories. There's a clear preference for focused, UK-centric discussions and a structured approach to online discourse, as evidenced by the discussion on list policy.

The interview highlights the evolution of JM's views from early acceptance of figures like Von Däniken to a more discerning and skeptical outlook. The role of the internet in facilitating research and community building is also a prominent theme, as is the ongoing effort to understand the nature of unexplained aerial phenomena through rigorous analysis rather than speculation.

This document is a transcript of a conversation between two individuals, referred to as SM and JM, discussing various aspects of Ufology, primarily within the UK context. The conversation spans multiple pages and covers topics ranging from the public perception of Ufology, the role of official bodies like the Ministry of Defence (MOD), the challenges of research and investigation, and the future organisation of the Ufology community.

Discussion on Ufology and its Perception

SM begins by distinguishing between New Ageism as a diversion and serious Ufology. JM agrees that there's a religious overtone to Ufology, not necessarily in organised religious groups but in a more subtle element. SM acknowledges this but emphasizes the need to separate it from Ufology to avoid deterring potential contributors who might be put off by those who claim to 'meditate and talk to aliens'.

JM highlights the problem of the internet and media presenting a 'cranky image' of Ufology, which discourages scientifically-minded individuals. SM expresses disappointment if someone were to dismiss Ufology based on such limited information, arguing they haven't looked deep enough. JM counters that the sheer volume of incoherent information online makes it difficult to find useful data, leading to "jumps of logic" like identifying unidentified lights as flying saucers from Mars, which he likens to faith-based reasoning.

Official Investigations and the MOD

The conversation shifts to the practicalities of UFO reporting and investigation. JM mentions Roswell and Rendlesham Forest as examples. SM searches Google and finds the National UFO Reporting Centre, noting its reputation. However, JM points out that such centres collect reports but don't analyze or investigate them, leading to a situation where many reports are made but none are investigated.

Nick Pope is mentioned as having highlighted the lack of a central reporting point in the UK, other than the MOD. JM criticizes the MOD's approach, describing the emails related to the 'Project' as boring and not indicative of genuine Ufology work. He asserts that the MOD does not have a dedicated department investigating UFOs as some might believe.

SM brings up the 'Clarke/Roberts syndrome,' and JM clarifies the MOD's actual process: a UFO report comes in, is logged on a standard form with 13 entries, and a desk officer might do a radar check. SM describes this as a mockery, not an investigation, as it concludes UK airspace is not compromised without proper checks.

JM expresses skepticism about the idea that serious UFO information always bypassed Nick Pope's desk, though he concedes there might be an aspect of that. He notes that in 30 years, the MOD has rarely visited witnesses, suggesting a lack of serious engagement. SM questions whether the MOD decided long ago that there's 'nothing to this UFO business' or if they simply couldn't do anything about it.

JM states that lights behaving unusually in the sky are not considered a defence significance issue by the MOD. He uses Rendlesham Forest as an example, discussing the presence of a large double airbase and a potential nuclear weapons facility, questioning the presence of nuclear weapons there and suggesting it might have been a diversionary base or a storage point.

Rendlesham Forest and Charles Halt

Regarding Rendlesham Forest, JM believes it was a sensitive site, and the MOD did not interview the leading officer, Charles Halt, until the second night. SM questions this, mentioning confusion about jurisdiction. JM expresses puzzlement as to why Halt took two weeks to file a report. SM corrects him, stating Halt was waiting for the coordinating officer to return from Christmas leave. JM argues that even so, they could have reported it through the air force operations room, suggesting no excuse for inaction.

SM asks if JM thinks Halt is lying, to which JM replies he doesn't understand the actions Halt *didn't* take. SM notes Halt received a promotion, which JM suggests was likely due anyway.

UfologyUK and Community Issues

The discussion touches on UfologyUK, with SM finding its focus on the syntax of 'Project' to be tedious. JM agrees but sees a higher point, suggesting that a certain civil servant was presenting a false image of a significant MOD department. SM mentions the 'Clarke/Roberts syndrome' again.

JM describes the current state of UfologyUK, noting that while there are 1100 registered members, it's hard to tell how many actively read posts. He estimates only about 500 are active readers. He also comments on the difficulty of reading long digests and the importance of proper email formatting, which UfologyUK enforces strictly, sometimes placing users on moderation.

The Future of Ufology and Proposed Solutions

JM expresses a vision for the future of UK Ufology, emphasizing the need for a "central point of focus" that the press, public, and MOD would recognise. He believes BUFORA is the closest thing to this but has not fully fulfilled the role. He doesn't see immediate enthusiasm for his ideas but believes progress is possible.

He proposes establishing standards and a training syllabus as crucial steps. He suggests a collaborative effort, involving astronomers and psychologists, to improve training packages. He envisions a coalition of entities investigating UFOs in the UK.

JM estimates a ten-year timeframe for achieving some of these goals, acknowledging it's a long-term view. He believes that if journalists had a reliable source for Ufology information and the MOD had a clear interface for information exchange, it would be beneficial, but this is currently lacking due to the absence of a single representative group.

Standards and Training

JM argues for the necessity of basic standards for those calling themselves 'Ufologists,' suggesting that anyone can currently claim the title. He believes that even a low standard, once established, can be improved upon. He acknowledges that such standards wouldn't be legally recognized but sees it as a step towards legitimacy.

SM notes that previous attempts to establish standards have appeared 'elitist,' and JM agrees that public relations have been lacking. He reiterates that ten years is a realistic target for implementing these changes.

BUFORA and Collaboration

JM discusses BUFORA, suggesting a shift in their perspective due to their reduced size and inability to cope with national investigations. He believes they are trying to improve and that discussions are ongoing to get them back on the right course. He expresses optimism about the potential of Robert Rosamund as the new Chairman, provided he commits to the role.

JM sees the future of Ufology as "gradually positive," with small steps towards improvement. He foresees a national organisation capable of responding to UFO reports and gaining public recognition. He believes that a collaborative atmosphere, working towards the same goals, will lead to quicker progress.

Challenges and Historical Context

JM highlights historical problems, such as individual groups using different forms and having varying levels of skill and training, leading to a lack of uniformity that makes analysis difficult for scientists. He describes Ufology as time-consuming and a passion rather than just a hobby, comparing the investment of time to sailing.

He laments the loss of information over the years and mentions the case of David Rees, a deceased Ufologist, whose death was not widely known for a year. He also notes the hasty efforts to capture the work of Bob Pratt after his death, and how good collections have been lost.

JM acknowledges that some people prefer to work alone and don't see the need for a collective effort, attributing this partly to apathy. He believes his vision is possible and will happen.

Moving Forward

To achieve his goal, JM plans to promote the best aspects of Ufology online, praising good investigations and critiquing poor ones to set standards. He emphasizes the importance of a collaborative training syllabus, involving experts in fields like psychology and astronomy.

He praises 'Updates' magazine and its publisher, Errol, for their work but questions the use of a hand-cranked mail list. He contrasts this with his use of Smart groups for managing communications.

JM believes that UfologyUK is successful due to people generally posting in the appropriate format, though he admits to occasional lapses himself. He notes that UfologyUK has a warning system for formatting issues, rather than instant moderation.

Conclusion on MOD and Future Surprises

JM reiterates that the Rendlesham Forest incident highlights the MOD's lack of interest, as they failed to even contact Charles Halt by telephone to clarify the date problem. He suggests that the MOD despises the subject, possibly due to the calls they receive from 'lunatics.' He recounts an anecdote about an EMOTCS member being told to 'leave this alone now,' interpreting it as the MOD wanting to avoid opening a 'bag of worms.'

SM asks if the MOD could be in for a surprise one day. JM responds that potentially they could, and if aliens were to invade, they would be caught completely unprepared.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The recurring themes in this discussion revolve around the perceived unprofessionalism and fragmentation of the Ufology community, the lack of credible and accessible information, the perceived indifference and inadequacy of official investigations by bodies like the MOD, and the urgent need for standardization, collaboration, and a central organizational structure to legitimize and advance the field of Ufology in the UK. The editorial stance, as conveyed through JM's perspective, is one of critical optimism, advocating for a more rigorous, organized, and scientifically-minded approach to Ufology, while acknowledging the significant historical and cultural barriers that need to be overcome.

This collection of pages from The UFO Review covers a range of topics related to UFO sightings and ufology, spanning from historical accounts to contemporary reports and critical commentary. The content appears to be from various issues, likely published between 1997 and 2005, given the references to specific years and articles.

Discussion on Government Contingency Plans and MOD Involvement

The initial pages feature a dialogue between 'SM' and 'JM' discussing the possibility of government contingency plans for alien invasions. JM suggests that while general invasion plans exist, they are likely tied to Cold War nuclear devastation scenarios rather than specifically alien threats. SM notes that inquiries at national and local levels have yielded no specific plans. Both agree that the Ministry of Defence (MOD) plays a crucial role as the keeper of official records, though JM points out that the individual responsible for UFO matters within the MOD dedicates only about 25% of their time (10 hours a week) to the subject, questioning the effectiveness of such limited engagement. They suggest that increasing public interest through MP inquiries could be a way to address this lack of attention, proposing that demonstrating a 'lack of interest' through examples like Rendlesham could be presented to MPs.

The UFO Review's 'Biggest Pile Of Ufological Crap In 2005 Awards'

Pages 92-93 present a satirical 'awards' list for the 'Biggest Pile Of Ufological Crap In 2005'. The number one spot is awarded to the 'India Daily' for its consistent output of apparent ufological stories, described as 'garbage'. Radio presenter Jeff Rense is ranked second, humorously noted for his appearance. Royce J Myers 1II is criticized for taking a 'moral high ground' and acting as a 'Grand Inquisitor'. Jim Hickman is criticized for running 'Skywatch into the ground'. 'Prophet Yahweh' is mentioned for bringing 'pizzazz and showmanship' to the subject, with a hope for a TV series. Chris Parr is acknowledged for 'magnificently wasting everyone's time' as an artist.

Christmastime UFO Sightings in the UK

Pages 94-100 delve into UFO sightings in the UK, particularly around the Christmas and New Year period. The article acknowledges the significance of the Rendlesham Forest incident but states it will not be covered in detail, directing readers to search for it independently.

Historical Sightings

• 1387: A sighting described as a 'fire in the sky' shaped like a blazing rotating wheel, occurring in November and December.
• 1952: A major wave of UFO sightings catalogued by Richard Hall, occurring between June and December over the North Sea, some during NATO manoeuvres.

Modern Era Sightings

• 1960s (December): A 'Mass Sighting' in Furness, Cumbria, where a couple witnessed a UFO hovering over rooftops for about a minute. The gentleman, initially skeptical, was surprised to see the story in his local paper.
• 1964 (Christmas Day): The 'Warminster Mystery' in Wiltshire began with strange sounds, dubbed 'The Thing'. Arthur Shuttlewood, a local journalist, documented numerous sightings and believed Warminster was a crucial 'focal point or node' in a navigational grid. Steve Dewey's analysis suggests that while the sounds were unusual, the sightings themselves were not entirely novel, but the town's collective immersion in the phenomenon was notable.
• 1970-1971 (Autumn/Winter & Spring): During the 'Operation Aeneid', a secret NATO operation, UFOs were sighted over the North Atlantic and the eastern coastline of Britain. One incident involved a 180-foot UFO with glass-like objects hovering over an RAF bombing range at Donna Nook, Lincolnshire, observed by airmen. Tony Dodd's article details other sightings, including a pilot who lost his life.
• 1992 (December 20th-24th): A UFO was tracked entering the sea off the east coast of Iceland. On the 22nd, fishermen reported a 'very large, very fast, moving underwater craft' with flashing coloured lights, escorted by another object.
• 1997 (May/June): Tony Dodd's article 'Engaging Unknown Underwater Craft' in UK UFO Magazine is referenced.
• 1973 (Late November/Early December): A personal sighting by the author's husband and herself on the A4 road between Hungerford and Newbury. They observed a shiny, metallic, cigar-shaped object without wings or tail keeping pace with their car for about six miles. This sighting convinced the husband, who had been a skeptic.
• 1988 (Early December): Passengers on a coach trip saw an upside-down cone shape, bright neon-yellow, twisting and with twinkling white lights, above Sheffield Parkway.
• 1997 (December 19th): A UFO was reported over a hydroelectric dam in Llandoverry, Wales.
• 1999 (December 29th): A grey trapezoidal object, approximately 20 feet long and 6-10 feet high, was seen crossing the road at high speed in Swaledale, North Yorkshire.
• 1999 (December 13th): A daylight sighting in Swindon, Wiltshire, of a bright white light that changed into blue/white lights, similar to an object seen by a combined APRA/SUFOG team. This object changed course by 90° and disappeared over the Avebury area.
• 2002 (December 19th): The APRA co-ordinator reported an early morning encounter in Wanborough, Wiltshire, of a cigar-shaped object with a red/orangey tail, travelling in a straight line.
• 2000 (December 28th): A diamond-shaped object, light on top and dark underneath, was observed over the M4 Hammersmith flyover in London.
• 2000 (After Christmas): A taxi driver in Wooten Basset, Wiltshire, observed a searchlight-like object that transformed into a cigar-shaped object, followed by a red golf ball-shaped UFO. The cigar-shaped objects appeared to divide and escort the red object, and then left after the witness attempted telepathic communication.
• 2001 (December 10th): Two night workers in Chatham, Kent, saw strange balls of light and a craft that appeared out of control.
• 2001 (December 23rd): An observer in Livingston, Scotland, saw a flashing light that changed colour and was approached by three white lights in a triangular shape.
• 2001 (December 23rd): In Edinburgh, Scotland, three gigantic 'Mother-ships' were captured on camera over the estuary.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The recurring themes in this collection of articles include the persistent reporting of UFO sightings across different eras and locations in the UK, the perceived lack of serious governmental or military engagement with the phenomenon, and a critical, often satirical, stance towards certain aspects of the ufological community. The editorial tone ranges from serious reporting of incidents to lighthearted mockery of individuals and publications within the UFO field. There is an emphasis on providing links to further information and original reports, suggesting a desire to encourage reader investigation while also maintaining a critical perspective.

This issue of Fortean Times, spanning pages 101-110, covers a range of topics including recent UFO sightings in the UK and a detailed discussion on the reclassification of celestial bodies in the outer solar system. The magazine features reports from various locations across the UK, alongside an in-depth analysis of astronomical discoveries and debates.

UFO Sightings in the UK

The issue presents several accounts of unidentified flying objects and aerial phenomena reported in the United Kingdom. On Christmas Day 2001, a couple in Ipswich, Suffolk, reported seeing a bright, blue-hued oval object with protuberances. Two days later, a lady in Wytham, Oxfordshire, witnessed a triangular UFO with lights at each corner hovering silently over a wood.

In late 2003, multiple sightings were documented. On December 2nd, a lady in Halewood, Merseyside, reported seeing a circle of six red lights, while earlier that day, a gentleman observed three white lights. On December 4th, witnesses in Halewood saw ten to twelve reddish-orange lights moving in groups. On December 22nd, two individuals in Wheatley, Oxfordshire, observed three motionless yellow/white lights forming a triangle. On December 29th, two separate witnesses in Halewood captured film of lights with their own propulsion systems, and another observer described a carousel-like object with pulsating orange lights.

Further reports include numerous sightings of large orange balls in Cumbria between Autumn and Christmas 2003, and a delivery driver's account of a similar object in late 2002. An intriguing case from Bonsall Moor, Derbyshire, circa December 31st, involved a family witnessing a craft that changed shape from a bright light to a triangular craft without sound. The issue concludes its UFO section with a report from Huddersfield on January 2nd, 2004, where an elderly gentleman saw a stationary bright light followed by a fast-moving UFO.

Astronomical Debate: Planet 10 and Pluto

A significant portion of the magazine is dedicated to the ongoing debate surrounding the classification of celestial bodies in the outer solar system, particularly Pluto and the newly discovered object 2003 UB313. The article 'Number 10 and Spin' by Andrew Pike, FRAS, introduces the topic, referencing a political statement by Kenneth Clarke about the North Star to segue into astronomy.

The discovery of 2003 UB313, unofficially named Xena by its discoverers Michael Brown, David Rabinowitz, and Chadwick Trujillo, is discussed. This object is noted to be about three times as distant as Pluto and takes 560 years to orbit the Sun. The International Astronomical Union (IAU) is central to this debate, as its naming conventions and definitions of planets are under scrutiny.

Professor Iwan Williams, President of IAU Division III, is featured, explaining the complexities of defining a planet. The article highlights that 2003 UB313 was initially classified as an asteroid due to early sightings and its discovery in 2003. However, further investigation revealed its significant size, estimated at 3,000 kilometers in diameter, making it larger than Pluto. The object's reflectivity (60%) and its methane ice surface composition are compared to Pluto and Neptune's moon Triton.

The Kuiper Belt, a region of icy bodies beyond Neptune, is described as similar to the asteroid belt. The discovery of Ceres as the largest asteroid led to questions about Pluto's planetary status, and the discovery of 2003 UB313 further complicates this, as it may be the largest Kuiper object. The eccentric orbits of both Pluto and 2003 UB313, as well as their large orbital inclinations, challenge traditional planetary definitions.

The article discusses the IAU's previous decision to retain Pluto's planetary status, influenced by sentimental reasons and limited knowledge. However, with growing understanding of the outer solar system, the IAU faces the challenge of applying consistent rules. Professor Williams suggests that if Pluto is to remain a planet, then 2003 UB313 should also be classified as Planet 10. He proposes setting Pluto's size as the lower threshold for planetary status.

The potential reclassification of Pluto is framed as a sensitive issue, given Clyde Tombaugh's discovery in 1930 and his long life. The article also touches upon other distant objects like Sedna and the possibility of more 'wandering bodies' of planetary size being discovered.

Announcement from Fortean Times

An announcement details a fundamental change in the sales policy of Fortean Times. Following market research, the magazine's management has decided to advise retailers not to sell to anyone under the age of 60. This decision is attributed to the discovery that their main readership group appears to be in the 80 to 110 year old age range, with an editorial style and content that appeals to an older demographic. The magazine notes that Saga had approached them for a takeover, which was declined. The age restriction has been lowered to 60 to be more inclusive of younger fans.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The recurring themes in this issue are the unexplained phenomena, particularly UFO sightings, and the scientific exploration and classification of celestial bodies. The magazine maintains its focus on Fortean subjects, presenting detailed accounts of alleged sightings alongside in-depth discussions of scientific controversies. The editorial stance appears to be one of open inquiry, presenting evidence and expert opinions on both paranormal and scientific topics, encouraging readers to engage with these complex issues. The tone is generally informative, with a hint of skepticism towards some UFO reports and a thorough exploration of the scientific arguments regarding planetary classification.

Title: UFO Review
Issue Date: 2005
Document Type: Magazine Issue

This issue of UFO Review delves into topics of astronomical mystery and personal tribute. It features a significant article titled "Searching for the Truth," which serves as a tribute to Walter Haut, a pivotal figure in the Roswell Incident. The magazine also explores recent astronomical discoveries, particularly concerning objects in the outer solar system and their implications for planetary dynamics.

"Searching for the Truth: A Tribute to Walter Haut"

Authored by Dennis G. Balthaser, this piece honors the life and contributions of Walter Haut, who passed away on December 15, 2005. Balthaser, who was affiliated with the International UFO Museum and Research Center in Roswell from 1996 to 1998, shares his personal relationship with Haut. He describes Haut as a credible witness and a gentleman who was always willing to share his experiences.

Haut's most notable role was as the public relations officer for the Roswell Army Air Field in 1947, where he wrote the famous newspaper article on July 8, 1947, titled "RAAF Captures Flying Saucer on Ranch in Roswell Region." Balthaser recounts meeting Haut in 1996 and spending two and a half years with him daily at the museum, where Haut would interact with visitors and discuss his involvement.

The article also touches upon Haut's background, including his birth in Chicago in 1922 and his early work delivering merchandise for a drug store, where he encountered the Capone family. His military career during WWII is detailed, highlighting his service as a bombardier in B-29s, flying 35 missions over Japan. He received numerous medals and shared vivid descriptions of his missions, including sleeping during long flights and being woken by the pilot to take over for the bombing run.

A significant part of Haut's military experience included his involvement in the dropping of atomic bombs on Japan and his participation in the testing of an atomic bomb in the Pacific Ocean during Operation Crossroads in 1946. He flew through the mushroom cloud and dropped instruments, describing the experience as a "bumpy" flight.

Haut also spoke highly of Colonel "Butch" Blanchard, the commander of the 509th Bomb Wing in Roswell in 1947. They shared an exceptional relationship, with Blanchard often seeking Haut's thoughts on matters.

After his military service, Haut remained active in civic organizations in Roswell and enjoyed living there with his wife. Balthaser expresses that meeting and knowing Walter Haut significantly enriched his life as a person and a researcher, treasuring their visits and Haut's fascinating life experiences.

Astronomical Speculations: Planet X, Nibiru, and 2003 UB313

The issue also features a speculative piece on astronomical discoveries, particularly concerning the object 2003 UB313. The author questions how this discovery fits within the context of "Planet X," noting that the term can mean different things to astronomers versus those who follow ancient views like Nibiru.

The discovery of 2003 UB313 is presented as evidence that the outer Solar System may have experienced disruption. The article references existing astronomical beliefs about such disruptions, citing Uranus spinning on its side, Pluto's orbit intersecting Neptune's, and Triton potentially being a captured object.

The author suggests that the strange orbits observed further out in the solar system might be explained by something passing through them, akin to billiard balls being scattered. This "something" could be another planet, a "death star," or a companion to the Sun in a more eccentric orbit. While the author admits to not being a strong supporter of the Planet 12 or Nibiru theories, they remain open-minded about these possibilities.

Cartoon: Today's Gibbletoon

A cartoon by Dan Gibson, titled "Today's Gibbletoon," is included. The cartoon depicts a character in a UFO-like vehicle with a vacuum cleaner, interacting with a figure in a "City Dump." The dialogue is: "What's a hot babe like you doin' in a dump like this?"

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The recurring themes in this issue are the investigation of UFO phenomena, particularly the Roswell Incident, and the exploration of astronomical anomalies and potential hidden celestial bodies. The editorial stance appears to be one of open-minded inquiry, acknowledging both scientific discoveries and ancient or alternative theories without outright dismissal. The tribute to Walter Haut underscores a respect for firsthand accounts and historical figures within the UFO community. The magazine encourages reader contributions and engagement, as indicated by the contact information for submissions to "UFO Review."