UFO Nyt - No 1 jan-feb 1974

Magazine Overview

This issue of "ufo nyt" (UFO News), published by S.U.F.O.I. (Skandinavisk UFO Information), is the first issue of volume 16, dated January-February 1974. It is priced at 5.75 DKK including tax. The cover features a stylized depiction of space with planets and stars, and the main headline is "ufo nyt".

SUFOI and its Organization

The magazine details the structure and purpose of SUFOI, a self-governing institution dedicated to disseminating knowledge about UFOs through publications, lectures, and public outreach. It aims to contribute to the understanding of UFO phenomena. The organization is led by an executive committee and a representative council. The executive committee consists of seven members elected by the representative council, which includes representatives from Scandinavian regions and established working groups. The editorial stance of "UFO-NYT" is that articles published within it represent contributions to the understanding of UFO research, and SUFOI does not necessarily endorse the views expressed or take responsibility for the opinions presented.

The issue lists the members of the executive committee, including Chairman Erling Jensen, Treasurer Gunnar Weichardt, and Secretary Xavier P. Madsen. It also lists representatives for "UFO-NYT" and other committee members. The representative council's structure is also outlined, with a responsible editor, editorial secretary, and various departmental representatives for accounting, information, reporting, and investigation across Denmark and Norway.

Key Articles and Features

"En astronaut taler ud" (An Astronaut Speaks Out)

This article features statements from American astronaut Gordon Cooper, who believes that humans will eventually need to colonize other planets due to overcrowding. Cooper, an amateur archaeologist, suggests that UFOs, under intelligent control, have visited Earth for thousands of years. He cites findings in South America of a 5,000-year-old civilization with similarities to ancient Egypt, proposing that ancient navigators must have traveled between continents, possibly with guidance from extraterrestrial beings. His theories are compared to those of Erich von Däniken, suggesting that intelligent beings may have visited Earth long before humanity reached an advanced stage.

"En astronaut taler ud" (Continued)

Cooper further speculates that if UFOs from other worlds landed on Earth millions of years ago, it's possible they could land today. He dismisses claims that UFOs don't exist, noting that many sightings have been confirmed by radar. He suggests that as humanity explores other planets, they may discover they are not alone.

"Månefarer tror på liv i verdensrummet" (Moon Traveler Believes in Life in Space)

This section reports on astronaut Dr. Harrison H. Schmidt, a geologist, who believes that life exists elsewhere in the universe. While unsure if it's human-like, he is convinced of advanced life forms on other planets. He admits to not having personally seen UFOs but has heard many accounts and has learned not to be dogmatic, thus believing UFOs exist.

"Er UFO er led i psykologisk krigsførelse" (Is the UFO Part of Psychological Warfare?)

An article discusses the theory presented by Colonel Stjepan Korda in the military journal "Narodna Armij." Korda suggests that flying saucers can be easily manufactured from lightweight plastic materials and filled with helium. He claims that in Eastern countries, these are known as "Automatic Flying Balloons" and are used by the military for psychological warfare to maintain the illusion that Earth is under observation and threatened by other planets. He alleges that military forces in many countries provide funding for films, news articles, and comics that focus on these mysterious aerial phenomena.

"Et rumskib bragte liv til Jorden" (A Spaceship Brought Life to Earth)

This article explores a theory by two British biologists, Nobel laureate Francis Crick and Leslie Orgel, who propose that life on Earth did not originate here but was seeded by microorganisms from an advanced extraterrestrial civilization via a technologically advanced spaceship. This theory builds upon Svante Arrhenius's earlier idea of life traveling through space as spores. Crick and Orgel suggest that intelligent civilizations, possibly older than ours, may have sent "life-bearers" to habitable planets, with the microorganisms being hardy enough to survive long space journeys.

"Vil fremmed klode have kontakt med os" (Will an Alien Planet Contact Us?)

This section reports on Soviet scientists detecting radio signals that could originate from a highly advanced civilization in space. The signals were detected at four different locations in the Soviet Union, ruling out local atmospheric disturbances. Professor Samuel Kaplan stated that it was too early to determine if the signals were natural or artificial, but they were definitely not from Earth satellites. Over 30 Soviet scientists are reportedly studying these signals, with the process of deciphering them potentially taking years.

"Send primtal" (Send Prime Numbers)

Magister Asger Lundbak discusses the possibility of communicating with extraterrestrial civilizations via radio signals. He suggests that prime numbers could be used as a universal language, as they are fundamental mathematical concepts. Sending pulses representing prime numbers, or combinations thereof, could signal intelligence and allow for the construction of a coded message. Such a message, traveling at the speed of light, would take at least 20 years to reach potential recipients approximately 20 light-years away.

"Pascagoula-tilfældet" (The Pascagoula Incident)

This detailed report covers the alleged abduction of Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker near Pascagoula, Mississippi, on October 11, 1973. The incident was investigated by APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization) with Dr. James A. Harder leading the inquiry. Hickson and Parker described encountering three alien beings, approximately 153 cm tall, with pale grey, wrinkled skin, no necks, and crab-like hands with two fingers. They were taken aboard a craft where they experienced numbness and observed a large, eye-like instrument. The beings reportedly returned them to their original location after about 15-20 minutes. The report notes that the men were terrified and that a lie detector test later indicated they were telling the truth. Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a prominent UFO researcher, commented that the individuals were not unbalanced and that the experience was "very real" and "not a hallucination."

"UFO jagter helikopter" (UFO Chases Helicopter)

This article recounts an incident on October 18, 1973, near Mansfield, Ohio, where helicopter pilot Captain Lawrence Coyne and his crew encountered a large, grey, metallic object described as a "fat cigar." The object, estimated to be about 18 meters long, exhibited extraordinary maneuverability, pursuing the helicopter at speeds exceeding 960 km/h. Coyne, an experienced pilot, described the object's advanced propulsion and maneuverability, suggesting UFOs are sovereign in their capabilities.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The recurring themes in this issue include the potential for extraterrestrial life, the credibility of astronaut testimonies regarding UFOs, the possibility of ancient alien contact influencing human civilization, and the investigation of specific UFO sightings and alleged encounters. The magazine also touches upon the use of UFO phenomena in psychological warfare and the scientific challenges of interstellar communication. SUFOI maintains a stance of presenting information and research related to UFOs, encouraging readers to form their own conclusions while acknowledging the organization does not necessarily endorse every viewpoint expressed within its pages.

This issue of UFO-NYT, dated September-October 1973, features a cover story titled "Hvad driver UFO'erne...?" (What drives UFOs...???), authored by Flemming Ahrenkiel. The magazine delves into theoretical explanations for UFO propulsion and behavior, alongside historical accounts of sightings.

Article: The Coyne Encounter

The issue details an encounter experienced by helicopter pilot Coyne and his crew. While flying, they observed a metallic, grey, cigar-shaped object, approximately 18 meters long, hovering directly above their helicopter. The object had red and green lights and a dome in the middle. The area behind the nose 'glowed' reddish, and a green light on the rear reflected on the hull. This light spun like a spotlight, illuminating the helicopter's cockpit. Initially, Coyne mistook it for a jet fighter and contacted Mansfield Air Base. However, his radio suddenly and inexplicably died. The object then performed an evasive maneuver, diving and then decelerating from an estimated 960 km/t to 160 km/t, hovering over the helicopter. No visible features like portholes or intakes were observed. After a few seconds, the object sped off to the north. Following the encounter, the crew discovered that the helicopter had unexpectedly gained altitude from approximately 450 meters to nearly 1160 meters while in its dive, a phenomenon they could not explain. The incident was reported to the army and the press, with Coyne stating he would not have reported it if he had been alone.

Article: UFO Propulsion Theories (Part 2)

Flemming Ahrenkiel continues his exploration of UFO propulsion, focusing on the 'G-field' hypothesis. This theory proposes the use of an artificial gravity field to explain the observed characteristics of UFOs, such as their ability to change direction instantly, their high acceleration without sonic booms, and their independent operation from conventional fuel. The article outlines five minimum requirements for a propulsion theory: it must work in horizontal and vertical planes, be independent of large amounts of fuel, reduce air resistance at high speeds, allow for instantaneous acceleration transfer to the craft and its occupants, and its effects must match observations.

The article discusses the potential effects of such a G-field on the surrounding environment. A weak G-field might create a localized effect, while a stronger field used for high speeds would extend further, causing the surrounding air to move with the object. This would prevent aerodynamic heating due to friction. However, a speed gradient in the air could lead to temperature increases, potentially causing phenomena like luminescence. The author also considers the possibility of the G-field causing the air to behave like a fluid, preventing sonic booms by ensuring a continuous change in air speed around the craft. A breakdown in the 'machinery' of such a craft could lead to a catastrophic collision with stationary air, resulting in a shockwave and a loud sonic boom.

The article then examines the effects of the G-field on the ground when a craft is taking off. If the G-field lifts the craft with 1g, the ground beneath it would experience a pull of 4.75g, potentially causing loose soil, stones, and vegetation to be lifted. This would leave a crater. The author also explores scenarios with different G-field strengths and focal lengths, illustrating how they could affect the craft's interaction with the ground and its occupants. For instance, a strong field with a short focal length could cause significant discomfort to the crew, while a longer focal length might distribute the effect more evenly. The article uses diagrams to illustrate these concepts, including how the G-field might affect the pilot's perception of gravity and how it could create condensation clouds similar to those left by aircraft.

Article: UFOs in the Past - For 30 Years Ago

This section recounts a historical sighting from World War II, during the bombing raid on Schweinfurt. It describes a "swarm of silver disks" observed by pilots and gunners of the 384th bomb group. These objects were described as silver-shining, approximately 2.5 cm thick and 7.5 cm in diameter, and were seen gliding slowly towards the B-17 bombers. The report notes that enemy fighter activity had ceased prior to this observation. One B-17, number 026, flew directly through a swarm of these disks without any apparent effect on the aircraft's engines or wings. The pilot reported that some of the disks seemed to have hit the tail section, but there was no explosion. Additionally, about 6 meters from the disks, pilots observed a mass of black debris or similar objects, varying in size, forming swarms of 0.9-1.20 meters in diameter.

Other Content

The issue also includes a section titled "UFO-materiale søges!" (UFO material wanted!), appealing for books, old issues of UFO-NYT, and other periodicals for the SUFOI archive. It also features advertisements for KOWA binoculars and an optical import business.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The magazine consistently explores the scientific and theoretical aspects of UFO phenomena, particularly focusing on potential propulsion mechanisms and the physical effects of UFOs. There is a clear interest in providing rational, albeit speculative, explanations for observed events, drawing on physics and engineering concepts. The editorial stance appears to be one of serious inquiry into the subject, encouraging the collection of data and the pursuit of understanding, as evidenced by the call for UFO materials and the detailed analysis of hypothetical G-field propulsion.

Title: UFO-NYT
Issue: 19
Volume: 1974
Date: 1974
Publisher: SUFOI
Country: Denmark
Language: Danish

This issue of UFO-NYT, published in 1974, focuses heavily on UFO sightings reported across Scandinavia and Italy, alongside an influential article by Jacques-Yves Cousteau advocating for a cosmic perspective on Earth and environmental consciousness.

Article: A Cosmic View of the Earth by Jacques-Yves Cousteau

Jacques-Yves Cousteau, renowned underwater researcher and member of the editorial staff of 'Vision' (The European Business Magazine), warns that the oceans are in danger. He stresses the urgent need for humanity to view the planet as a whole to prevent a tragedy. While citizens are closer to this understanding, their leaders lag behind. The oceans, once considered an inexhaustible reserve, are now systematically being destroyed by overfishing, coastal development, and pollution from municipalities and private industries. This has severely diminished their capacity as a food source. Although mineral resources like oil and manganese remain, global resources are finite while human needs grow exponentially. Cousteau argues that the health of the oceans is directly linked to human survival, stating that "Oceans can die. We must ensure they do not." He concludes that humanity could not exist if the Earth lacked water, which is likely as rare in the universe as life itself.

Cousteau contrasts the classical emphasis on individual understanding with the current unchecked explosion of individual desires, which he believes leads to the death of oceans and the poisoning of all life. He calls for immediate, large-scale international action. Fortunately, he notes, Russian and American space programs are fostering a new planetary understanding among people on Earth. The space race has provided an unexpected and valuable gift: a cosmic perspective of our planet. Photographs of Earth from the Moon have popularized the idea that all humans are passengers on Spaceship Earth, a vessel with limited resources but immense beauty. National borders, so meticulously drawn and causing so much conflict, are invisible from space. Only oceans, continents, lakes, and rivers – our common heritage – are visible. It is becoming clear that to survive, humanity must develop a planetary understanding of Earth, its water, and its energy. Space exploration will soon enable us to assess the oceans' productive capacity and monitor events like forest fires and famine.

UFO Sightings Reports

The magazine dedicates a significant portion to detailed UFO sighting reports from various locations, primarily in Scandinavia, with a few from Italy.

Denmark

Nakskov (September 29, 1970): An anonymous observer reported a disc-shaped, dark yellowish-brown object performing complex maneuvers, later joined by two luminous 'tennis balls'. The observation lasted for several hours.

Midtsjælland (October 11, 1973): A UFO alarm was issued. Reports included a white object moving slowly, changing course, and red lights observed in a fruit plantation. Telephone lines in the area were also affected.

Pedersborg (October 17, 20/10 73): Red lights were observed in a fruit plantation, coinciding with telephone disruptions. Witnesses described the lights as pulsating and rotating.

Midtsjælland (October 19, 1973): Another UFO alarm. A clear yellow, pulsating object was observed, changing course and intensity. Additionally, a yellow-luminous object descended steeply into a fruit plantation near Sorø.

Sjælland (October 23, 1973): A UFO alarm covered most of Sjælland. Reports mentioned objects and heavy air traffic, with difficulties in automated telephone centers.

Madslunde (November-December 1973): Multiple reports from this area described objects, including a luminous object that descended behind trees and was not seen to ascend, suggesting a possible landing.

Vedsøvang (December 9, 1973): Observations included a large, reflective object descending behind a forest, a white star-like object moving at high speed, and an object with side lights and a pulsating red center light.

Karlstrup (December 1, 1973): A couple driving towards Copenhagen observed flat, yellow-white luminous discs moving in a curve over the area.

Norway

Fyllingsdalen (April 19, 1973): A couple observed a large, milky white object hovering silently between two pine trees, which then ascended slowly.

Hønefoss (October 1, 1973): A man observed a golden-shining object moving slowly and silently around his house for six hours at various altitudes.

Rønne, Bornholm (July 2, 1972): An oval object with a strong orange color and a surrounding corona was observed. It moved towards the observers, becoming larger and brighter before they drove away.

Sweden

Tisvattnet (July 27, 1973): An ægtepar observed a strongly luminous yellow object that moved slowly eastward and then ascended.

Italy

La Spezia (October 29, 1973): Two students observed a red, fiery object descending vertically towards the town, then flying horizontally over it. One student managed to photograph the object.

Scandi-Corner

This section, edited by Finn Nielsen, provides news and UFO research updates from Scandinavian countries.

Norway: Four Jetfighters Chase Luminous Object (November 30, 1971): A radar station in Northern Norway detected an unknown luminous echo. Four Norwegian 'Freedom Fighters' were directed to intercept the object, which was moving at 70-80 knots. The pilots later saw a star-like, brightly shining object high above them, moving away from them. Due to fuel limitations, they could not pursue it.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The recurring themes in this issue are the detailed documentation of UFO sightings and the growing awareness of environmental issues, particularly the state of the oceans. The magazine appears to adopt a stance of serious inquiry into UFO phenomena, presenting witness accounts and technical details. The inclusion of Jacques-Yves Cousteau's article suggests an editorial interest in broader scientific and philosophical perspectives related to humanity's place in the universe and its responsibility towards the planet. The publication also highlights the challenges in UFO research, such as the difficulty in verifying reports and the occasional interference with communication systems.

This issue of UFO-NYT, dated 1958 (though articles span up to 1972), is published by SUFOI in Denmark and focuses on various UFO-related phenomena and historical accounts. The cover prominently features an article about Sir George Grey's explorations.

Article: "STEN" VOLDER EKSPERTER HOVEDBRUD (Sweden)

This article details a puzzling incident from November 1958 in Sweden where two carpenters encountered a luminous object that landed near their car, causing the engine to stall. After the object departed, they found a heavy, warm 'stone' which proved exceptionally hard, capable of breaking a coal mill and being cut with a knife. Despite extensive examination by jewelers and a laboratory, its composition remained unknown. The object was described as blue with yellow edges, emitting a blue light that illuminated the surroundings. The incident is presented as a potential trace of a 'flying saucer'.

Article: JEG TROEDE, JEG VILLE BLIVE DRÆBT (Finland)

This report from March 30, 1972, describes an observation by an Estonian couple and Seija's mother in Kourilehto, Finland. They witnessed a large, red, fiery object approaching at high speed, which then stopped abruptly about 50 meters above the ground and hovered silently. The observers were terrified, fearing the object would hit their house.

Article: Sir George Grey's utrolige rejser (Sir George Grey's incredible journeys)

This extensive article recounts the explorations of Sir George Grey in northwestern Australia starting in December 1837. Grey, at 25, commanded an expedition that explored the coast, cataloged flora and fauna, and interacted with indigenous populations. Key events include:

• Initial Landing: The expedition anchored in St. George Basin, established a base camp, and claimed the territory for Queen Victoria.
• Geological Discoveries: Grey noted unusual sandstone formations with terraces and pillars, observing erosion processes.
• Indigenous Encounters: The expedition faced hostile encounters with indigenous people, including an attack where Grey was wounded by spears. He also noted their use of a unique dog breed and their war paint.
• Rock Art: Grey discovered remarkable rock paintings in caves, including a large figure and depictions of heads, noting the use of colors not typically found in Aboriginal art of the region.
• Exploration Challenges: The journey involved crossing difficult terrain, rivers, and facing adverse weather conditions. They also discovered an unusual 'oven' or hearth made by indigenous people.
• Observations: Grey observed unusual patterns on baobab trees and noted the presence of sandstone pieces embedded in branches.

Article: Tilpasningsvanskeligheder med tyngdekraften (Adaptation difficulties with gravity)

This section discusses the challenges faced by astronauts returning to Earth after the Skylab 2 mission. While the astronauts Al Bean, Jack Lousma, and Owen Garriott generally adapted well, they experienced some difficulties. These included losing muscle strength (approximately 20%), balance issues (one astronaut needed visible references to stand upright), and a general feeling of fatigue. The article also mentions the death of small organisms and a spider that had adapted to the zero-gravity environment of the Skylab station.

Other Sections:

• Medlemsorientering (Membership Information): This section provides updates for SUFOI members, including information on book discounts, upcoming events, and the ongoing work on publishing J.A. Hynek's book. It also introduces a new 'Rapport-gruppe' for collecting UFO reports.
• STUDIEGRUPPERNE (Study Groups): This section lists various SUFOI study groups across Denmark, encouraging new members to join and participate in discussions.
• NORSK UFO CENTER (Norwegian UFO Center): An advertisement seeking serious UFO enthusiasts in the Oslo/Ostland area to become representatives.
• NYT STUDIEKREDSBLAD (New Study Circle Magazine): An announcement about a new duplicated magazine from the Tåstrup-gruppen, intended to connect different UFO groups.
• INFORMATIONSAFDELINGEN (Information Department): Details about the SUFOI Information Department's meetings and activities, including PR work and making SUFOI known.
• ELEV-MATERIALE (Student Material): Information about a reprinted booklet titled "Orientering om emnet UFO'er" (Orientation on the subject of UFOs).
• BESTIL UFO-FOREDRAG!! (Order UFO Lectures!!): An invitation to book lectures on UFOs from SUFOI.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

The magazine consistently promotes the investigation of UFO phenomena, presenting eyewitness accounts and scientific analysis. There is a clear interest in physical evidence, such as the Swedish 'stone', and in historical accounts that might shed light on anomalous events or ancient mysteries, as seen in the Sir George Grey article. The editorial stance appears to be one of open inquiry, encouraging members to participate in data collection and discussion through study groups and publications. The inclusion of space exploration (Skylab) suggests an interest in the broader context of human endeavors in unusual environments and their physiological effects.

Title: UFO-NYT
Issue: 39
Volume: 4
Date: October 1973

This issue of UFO-NYT delves into various aspects of the UFO phenomenon, featuring reports on space missions, notable sightings, media coverage, and available audio resources for enthusiasts.

Skylab and Space Exploration

The magazine touches upon the psychological aspects of space travel, mentioning 'space anemia' observed during Gemini missions, which caused a 12% drop in red blood cell production and remains unexplained. Astronauts on Skylab admitted to experiencing psychological tensions, with morale hitting a low point due to concerns about the Apollo command module's rocket control system, fearing a premature end to their mission. These tensions, described by astronaut Bean as a 'family pattern,' led to brief arguments but were generally resolved.

Notable UFO Sightings and Cases

Evald Hansen Maarup's Observation

A significant portion of the issue is dedicated to the UFO observation by over-police officer Evald Hansen Maarup on August 13, 1970. While on patrol, his vehicle's power was cut off by a bright light, and he observed a dark object with a sharp beam of light. After the light disappeared, the object departed rapidly, and the vehicle's power returned. Maarup managed to take three photos with his car's automatic camera and also photographed the road illuminated by his headlights after the object vanished.

Other International Cases

The issue also references other UFO incidents: Frank Mannor's observation during the 1966 'UFO wave' in the USA, supported by 52 witnesses including police officers. An account from Labrador, Canada, describes officers observing an object moving at 14,000 km/h at an altitude of 18 km, followed by a stationary object at 13 km the next day, officially attributed to seagulls. The famous 1952 observation by Air Captain William B. Nash and William Fortenberry from a DC-4 near Newport News, USA, is mentioned. Additionally, a 1965 observation at the South Pole by scientific bases noted UFOs and their impact on electromagnetic equipment. Two French naval officers reported a sighting from Saigon in 1885. The issue also notes UFO photos from Yungay, Peru (1967) and Germany, loaned by APRO, which appear to show similar types of UFOs.

SUFOI Audio Tapes

SUFOI (The Danish Organization for UFO Information) announces the release of two audio tapes for UFO enthusiasts.

UFO-bånd nr. 1

This tape is based on the book 'The UFO Evidence' by NICAP, a comprehensive collection of reports and testimonies. It covers various observations, including Mannor's case, Olden Moore's observation of a landed object with unusual landing marks and increased radioactivity, and the tragic case of Captain Thomas Mantell. It also includes observations from scientific bases at the South Pole regarding UFOs and electromagnetic interference.

UFO-bånd nr. 2

This tape focuses on the Evald Hansen Maarup case and includes street interviews about public perceptions of UFOs. It features an interview with Major B. Helldén from the Air Tactical Command in Karup regarding the handling of UFO observations within the Danish defense, and insights from Civil Engineer Fabricius of the Danish Defense Research Service. The tape also includes perspectives from SUFOI's chairman, Erling Jensen, and a segment from a 'Lexicon' broadcast featuring cand. scient. Henrik Stub on UFOs. Notable figures like Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding share their views on UFO phenomena. The tape concludes with Maarup's own account, bringing the focus back to the core UFO observations.

Both tapes are approximately 50-55 minutes long and are available on reel-to-reel or cassette. Each tape comes with a text sheet detailing its content. They can be purchased for 20 DKK each via Postgiro 11 77 25 to SUFOI, Oxford Allé 3 A, 2300 København S.

Media Coverage: The Dick Cavett Show

The issue highlights a Dick Cavett Show that aired on ABC in the USA on November 2, 1973, focusing on the UFO problem. The show featured astronaut McDivitt, Charles Hickson (of the Pascagoula incident), Captain Coyne (from a helicopter chase), and Dr. J. Allen Hynek. The broadcast included UFO photos, such as color photos from Yungay, Peru, and Germany, which appeared to depict similar craft. The author of the article appeals to Danmarks Radio (Danish Broadcasting Corporation) to air this show for Danish viewers.

Advertisements and Announcements

An advertisement for 'Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health' by L. Ron Hubbard is included, promoting it as a development in science that reveals obstacles to the optimal human mind. It directs readers to purchase the book via a coupon to the Scientology Church in Copenhagen.

Recurring Themes and Editorial Stance

This issue of UFO-NYT maintains a strong focus on documenting and disseminating information about UFO sightings and related phenomena. The editorial stance appears to be one of serious investigation and reporting, encouraging public engagement through resources like the SUFOI audio tapes and by highlighting media coverage of UFOs. There's a clear effort to present both official and civilian accounts, as well as expert opinions, while also appealing for broader media attention to the topic, as seen in the request to Danmarks Radio.